Showing posts with label podcast. Show all posts
Showing posts with label podcast. Show all posts

Sunday, August 16

Apple and the Google Voice app, surprise in store?

Awhile back Apple decided it was going to reject the native (as in "non-web-app") app for Google Voice from Google, citing that it "duplicated functionality the iPhone already had". Which, by the way, is against the developers terms of service for developing iPhone apps. Now, I have heard a bunch of blowback against Apple about this, and I'd like to throw my conspiracy theory into it. I'm also writing this in hopes, that basically Leo Laporte from TWiT and MacBreak Weekly see it, and Kevin and Alex from Diggnation see it. As these podcasts have just been going at it saying how Apple is an evil empire. My point is, maybe everything isn't as it seems. (as well as all the other podcasts that have been lambasting Apple since the rejection).

First, if you haven't heard of Google Voice, Google Voice allows you to have one phone number that you give to people and that phone number can be assigned "Back-end" phone numbers that the Google Voice (GV from now on) phone number calls. So, for example, if you call my GV number, it will, depending on who you are, call my home phone, my cell phone, and Gizmo (VOIP Program) all at the same time and I can pick up any one of the three. Furthermore, if you leave a voicemail on my GV number, your voicemail goes through voice to text transcription and gets SMSed and Emailed to me. I use GV for several reasons.

One, I can give it to ANYONE and I can assign what phone number you ring when you call me.
Second, I can give the number to anyone, and I can change my backend phone numbers as well. One phone number for the rest of my life basically. I give you my GV number, and you don't have to worry about what my current cell number is. It's on ME to change it on the backend of GV.
Third, People don't know my actual cell phone number. But there really is no advantage to that.

GV works like this, (well at least on mine), if I get a phone call to my GV number, it rings through to the backend phones. Using minutes. It's not like Skype or Gizmo or anything like that. It's an actual phone call. It's using AT&T's minutes.

When someone sends an SMS to my Google Voice number, it gets sent to my cell phone. Just as if you were sending a text message directly to my cell phone. It costs the same.

There are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there on the internet that think that you can make calls for free, therefore AT&T is preventing the app from getting on the app store. The only reason that I could see AT&T bitching about this is that it would be easier for people to give out the Google Voice number, so at some point users who would switch off of AT&T, since changing the GV number on the backend is trivial, they'd be able to just switch numbers and not take their cell phone number with them. But this argument doesn't even make any sense. Actually it's hard for me to articulate what I am trying to explain as it doesn't make any sense. Since taking your phone number with you to a different carrier is a trivial exercise.

Now, all that being said, I think I've said what everyone on blogs that I read and podcasts that I listen to are saying, so here's my take:

Apple turned the GV app down because it "duplicated iPhone functionality". Which, as I said earlier, is against iPhone Dev agreement. What people aren't remembering is that awhile ago Apple did the same exact thing. Remember?

It was a podcast application. Podcaster. Podcaster was also rejected because it duplicated functionality on the iPhone. (or in iTunes depending upon which article you read). What happened to that application? Well, it disappeared into the sunset, because later, if you remember, Apple gave you the ability to download and play podcasts directly from the iTunes store on the iPhone itself. Yes, AFTER. So Apple has pulled this trick before. Most likely because the functionality to download podcasts via the native iTunes store on the iPhone itself was already in development at the time of the rejection of the app.

So, here's my thought.

If Apple did the same thing to Podcaster that it's doing to Google Voice, then that tells me that in a future release of the iPhone software, the Google Voice functionality will be native. NATIVE. Like, built into the iPhone.

For this to happen, Google and Apple would have to partner up. Much like they did for Google Maps. The team that would develop the iPhone app and the the team on the Google Voice side, quite possibly be on different teams, aside from that, the people involved with working with Apple on the "native" Google Voice functionality would probably be under a very strict NDA. Which is why the developers of the "current" GV wouldn't know that it was being worked on for native functionality inclusion. Apple is famous for it's secrecy. This isn't a stretch of the imagination by any sense of the word.

I have no insider knowledge of the iPhone division of Apple, so I can't verify this.

Imagine this, go to Preferences on the iPhone you log into Google Voice through a Preference, and then, you have a slider. Left for Native iPhone phone number, Right for Google Voice Number. The Google Voice number, of course, acts a little differently as the call has to be sent up to GV for GV to initiate the call and call both parties back. (There are apps that did this in the past, GVMobile is one, which I was smart enough to get a hold of before Apple pulled it from the store.) But what if the iPhone could work it so that you never knew about the "call back" from GV. What if it just looked like a native phone call, it just took a bit longer to connect, and the iPhone just background-auto-accepted the call. You'd never know it. It would act and look like a phone call from the native iPhone number.

SMS would be routed through GV's special SMS connectors so that they would appear to come from you GV number. All the while, you are still being charged "standard text messaging rates" and cell phone minutes from your calls. The only difference in the user experience is, people are seeing your GV number on their caller ID's and that's it.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this one. Please leave comments below.



Apple and the Google Voice app, surprise in store?

Awhile back Apple decided it was going to reject the native (as in "non-web-app") app for Google Voice from Google, citing that it "duplicated functionality the iPhone already had". Which, by the way, is against the developers terms of service for developing iPhone apps. Now, I have heard a bunch of blowback against Apple about this, and I'd like to throw my conspiracy theory into it. I'm also writing this in hopes, that basically Leo Laporte from TWiT and MacBreak Weekly see it, and Kevin and Alex from Diggnation see it. As these podcasts have just been going at it saying how Apple is an evil empire. My point is, maybe everything isn't as it seems. (as well as all the other podcasts that have been lambasting Apple since the rejection).

First, if you haven't heard of Google Voice, Google Voice allows you to have one phone number that you give to people and that phone number can be assigned "Back-end" phone numbers that the Google Voice (GV from now on) phone number calls. So, for example, if you call my GV number, it will, depending on who you are, call my home phone, my cell phone, and Gizmo (VOIP Program) all at the same time and I can pick up any one of the three. Furthermore, if you leave a voicemail on my GV number, your voicemail goes through voice to text transcription and gets SMSed and Emailed to me. I use GV for several reasons.

One, I can give it to ANYONE and I can assign what phone number you ring when you call me.
Second, I can give the number to anyone, and I can change my backend phone numbers as well. One phone number for the rest of my life basically. I give you my GV number, and you don't have to worry about what my current cell number is. It's on ME to change it on the backend of GV.
Third, People don't know my actual cell phone number. But there really is no advantage to that.

GV works like this, (well at least on mine), if I get a phone call to my GV number, it rings through to the backend phones. Using minutes. It's not like Skype or Gizmo or anything like that. It's an actual phone call. It's using AT&T's minutes.

When someone sends an SMS to my Google Voice number, it gets sent to my cell phone. Just as if you were sending a text message directly to my cell phone. It costs the same.

There are a lot of conspiracy theorists out there on the internet that think that you can make calls for free, therefore AT&T is preventing the app from getting on the app store. The only reason that I could see AT&T bitching about this is that it would be easier for people to give out the Google Voice number, so at some point users who would switch off of AT&T, since changing the GV number on the backend is trivial, they'd be able to just switch numbers and not take their cell phone number with them. But this argument doesn't even make any sense. Actually it's hard for me to articulate what I am trying to explain as it doesn't make any sense. Since taking your phone number with you to a different carrier is a trivial exercise.

Now, all that being said, I think I've said what everyone on blogs that I read and podcasts that I listen to are saying, so here's my take:

Apple turned the GV app down because it "duplicated iPhone functionality". Which, as I said earlier, is against iPhone Dev agreement. What people aren't remembering is that awhile ago Apple did the same exact thing. Remember?

It was a podcast application. Podcaster. Podcaster was also rejected because it duplicated functionality on the iPhone. (or in iTunes depending upon which article you read). What happened to that application? Well, it disappeared into the sunset, because later, if you remember, Apple gave you the ability to download and play podcasts directly from the iTunes store on the iPhone itself. Yes, AFTER. So Apple has pulled this trick before. Most likely because the functionality to download podcasts via the native iTunes store on the iPhone itself was already in development at the time of the rejection of the app.

So, here's my thought.

If Apple did the same thing to Podcaster that it's doing to Google Voice, then that tells me that in a future release of the iPhone software, the Google Voice functionality will be native. NATIVE. Like, built into the iPhone.

For this to happen, Google and Apple would have to partner up. Much like they did for Google Maps. The team that would develop the iPhone app and the the team on the Google Voice side, quite possibly be on different teams, aside from that, the people involved with working with Apple on the "native" Google Voice functionality would probably be under a very strict NDA. Which is why the developers of the "current" GV wouldn't know that it was being worked on for native functionality inclusion. Apple is famous for it's secrecy. This isn't a stretch of the imagination by any sense of the word.

I have no insider knowledge of the iPhone division of Apple, so I can't verify this.

Imagine this, go to Preferences on the iPhone you log into Google Voice through a Preference, and then, you have a slider. Left for Native iPhone phone number, Right for Google Voice Number. The Google Voice number, of course, acts a little differently as the call has to be sent up to GV for GV to initiate the call and call both parties back. (There are apps that did this in the past, GVMobile is one, which I was smart enough to get a hold of before Apple pulled it from the store.) But what if the iPhone could work it so that you never knew about the "call back" from GV. What if it just looked like a native phone call, it just took a bit longer to connect, and the iPhone just background-auto-accepted the call. You'd never know it. It would act and look like a phone call from the native iPhone number.

SMS would be routed through GV's special SMS connectors so that they would appear to come from you GV number. All the while, you are still being charged "standard text messaging rates" and cell phone minutes from your calls. The only difference in the user experience is, people are seeing your GV number on their caller ID's and that's it.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on this one. Please leave comments below.



Thursday, October 23

ISC Podcast Episode Eleven Posted

Hey everyone, sorry it has taken so long to get around to recording another podcast episode. Travel schedules have been very crazy between us lately. Anyway, enough excuses, here is episode eleven. Thanks for all the emails asking me where it is! :) It helps to remind me....

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CRCError

Recorded CRCError podcast last night, I've edited some of it, but I thought I would post something about the website on here. Well.. it's down. So wtf right?

Well something about the hosting company where the server is hosted is retarded or something, I don't know the whole drama or the issue, but we're working to get the server back up, and then punch the hosting provider in the face.



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ISC Podcast Episode Eleven Posted

Hey everyone, sorry it has taken so long to get around to recording another podcast episode. Travel schedules have been very crazy between us lately. Anyway, enough excuses, here is episode eleven. Thanks for all the emails asking me where it is! :) It helps to remind me....

All the podcasts
Just this podcast
Podcast through iTunes

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CRCError

Recorded CRCError podcast last night, I've edited some of it, but I thought I would post something about the website on here. Well.. it's down. So wtf right?

Well something about the hosting company where the server is hosted is retarded or something, I don't know the whole drama or the issue, but we're working to get the server back up, and then punch the hosting provider in the face.



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Friday, August 29

CRC Error Episode 2 Posted

Right after we got done recording the serious podcast (ISC Podcast from my previous post), I switched gears and Podcasters to do Episode 2 of the CRCError Podcast.

As before, this podcast is not for the feint of heart, it is Not safe for work, or children, or pretty much anyone else. Don't listen to it if you get offended, don't like swear words, or pretty much anything that may damage your psyche.

The podcast is meant to be funny. And it is!

iTunes subscribers, please go here to subscribe.
Non iTunes users, go here.

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Internet Storm Center Podcast Episode 10 posted

Just a quick note to let everyone know that we put out Podcast Episode 10.

iTunes users, go here to subscribe.
Non-iTunes users, go here to download.

As always we are looking for listener feedback, be sure and write in!

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CRC Error Episode 2 Posted

Right after we got done recording the serious podcast (ISC Podcast from my previous post), I switched gears and Podcasters to do Episode 2 of the CRCError Podcast.

As before, this podcast is not for the feint of heart, it is Not safe for work, or children, or pretty much anyone else. Don't listen to it if you get offended, don't like swear words, or pretty much anything that may damage your psyche.

The podcast is meant to be funny. And it is!

iTunes subscribers, please go here to subscribe.
Non iTunes users, go here.

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Internet Storm Center Podcast Episode 10 posted

Just a quick note to let everyone know that we put out Podcast Episode 10.

iTunes users, go here to subscribe.
Non-iTunes users, go here to download.

As always we are looking for listener feedback, be sure and write in!

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Monday, August 25

Podcast Episode X Record Notice

Tomorrow night at 7:30 EDT (Eastern Daylight Savings Time) Johannes, John, and I will be recording Episode X of the Internet Storm Center Podcast.

We'll be broadcasting live at http://www.stickam.com/joelesler

Please come and join! We love live feedback, talk with us in the stickam interface or via IRC in #dshield on irc.freenode.net.

Thanks!


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Tuesday, August 19

New Podcast

Several friends of mine, (and I) started a new podcast/blog/site at CRCError.net.  

Subscribe through iTunes (so we can climb the ladder) right here.  Now let me warn you, this podcast is NSFW.  (not safe for work.)

Read the website above, and it will kind of explain what is up.  But just warning you, if you are looking for a podcast that will inform you of something, this isn't it.  This podcast is just to make you laugh.

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New Podcast

Several friends of mine, (and I) started a new podcast/blog/site at CRCError.net.  

Subscribe through iTunes (so we can climb the ladder) right here.  Now let me warn you, this podcast is NSFW.  (not safe for work.)

Read the website above, and it will kind of explain what is up.  But just warning you, if you are looking for a podcast that will inform you of something, this isn't it.  This podcast is just to make you laugh.

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Wednesday, August 13

Podcast Episode Nine Posted

Okay, so after much crazyness concerning the Live Podcast from SANSFIRE of Episode 9, its finally posted.

So to give you a quick run down on what took us so long to get this thing posted, all of the mics that we were being used was going into a Soundboard, and the Soundboard audio was going directly out to a DVD recorder. The DVD recorder also had video In from a camera in the back of the room that was being manned during the podcast.

Turns out, the camera was also recording! Isn't that awesome? Well, turns out, there is alot of FAIL in this story.

The camera, has mysteriously vanished. Don't know where it went, but in it somewhere wherever it is, is a recording of the podcast. If someone finds this mythical recording, please, feel free to give me the video/audio off of what is inside it.

Wait, you say, what about the DVD Recorder? Well, we got the DVD, but the DVD has a big fat scratch down the middle of it, and we can't get the video off of it.

But luckily, I had garageband open, and I recorded the podcast using my built in mic on my macbook pro. Now, this is not the best audio in the whole wide world, but at the time, we had no alternative. So THAT's what the audio from the podcast is. Not out of the soundboard, not off of a video camera, but off of my built in mic on the MacBook Pro.

As a result the audio of some of the people, unless they were loud, or speaking into a mic, is not the best. You'll hear some of this in the beginning, but once we got everyone speaking into mics, and being loud, it gets a bit better.

You'll also hear me whispering for beer at some point in the beginning, just disregard that, beer was needed. :)

Enjoy.

UPDATE: Probably helps if I put a URL right?

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Podcast Episode Nine Posted

Okay, so after much crazyness concerning the Live Podcast from SANSFIRE of Episode 9, its finally posted.

So to give you a quick run down on what took us so long to get this thing posted, all of the mics that we were being used was going into a Soundboard, and the Soundboard audio was going directly out to a DVD recorder. The DVD recorder also had video In from a camera in the back of the room that was being manned during the podcast.

Turns out, the camera was also recording! Isn't that awesome? Well, turns out, there is alot of FAIL in this story.

The camera, has mysteriously vanished. Don't know where it went, but in it somewhere wherever it is, is a recording of the podcast. If someone finds this mythical recording, please, feel free to give me the video/audio off of what is inside it.

Wait, you say, what about the DVD Recorder? Well, we got the DVD, but the DVD has a big fat scratch down the middle of it, and we can't get the video off of it.

But luckily, I had garageband open, and I recorded the podcast using my built in mic on my macbook pro. Now, this is not the best audio in the whole wide world, but at the time, we had no alternative. So THAT's what the audio from the podcast is. Not out of the soundboard, not off of a video camera, but off of my built in mic on the MacBook Pro.

As a result the audio of some of the people, unless they were loud, or speaking into a mic, is not the best. You'll hear some of this in the beginning, but once we got everyone speaking into mics, and being loud, it gets a bit better.

You'll also hear me whispering for beer at some point in the beginning, just disregard that, beer was needed. :)

Enjoy.

UPDATE: Probably helps if I put a URL right?

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Thursday, July 24

Podcast Last night

The podcast last night (and my speech) went great, we had a great attendance (about 50-70 ish) turn out.

Unfortunately we were not able to broadcast it live since we had no internet, but we did get video and audio recordings of the whole thing.  We'll try and make those available soon!

Thanks for all those that turned out!

UPDATE:  I received word that there were 65 in the speech.  Even more in the podcast!

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Podcast Last night

The podcast last night (and my speech) went great, we had a great attendance (about 50-70 ish) turn out.

Unfortunately we were not able to broadcast it live since we had no internet, but we did get video and audio recordings of the whole thing.  We'll try and make those available soon!

Thanks for all those that turned out!

UPDATE:  I received word that there were 65 in the speech.  Even more in the podcast!

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Tuesday, July 22

SANSFIRE 2008

For those of you that are going to SANSFIRE, I'll be there on Wednesday night giving a talk on the "Mistakes made with Snort, How to correct them, and why you should".  It's at 7:00 pm.   The SANS @night stuff does NOT require a fee, so you can come and watch + participate.  Check it out here.

On another note we have the Internet Storm Center Podcast, live at 8:00 pm on Wednesday as well.  Between Johannes, Paul Asadoorian (Pauldotcom Security Weekly), and I (plus some other special guests?) we'll keep you entertained.  Please come by and support us!  If you can't make it in person, please listen live.  I don't know what URL we'll be using yet.  So keep your eyes posted here.

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SANSFIRE 2008

For those of you that are going to SANSFIRE, I'll be there on Wednesday night giving a talk on the "Mistakes made with Snort, How to correct them, and why you should".  It's at 7:00 pm.   The SANS @night stuff does NOT require a fee, so you can come and watch + participate.  Check it out here.

On another note we have the Internet Storm Center Podcast, live at 8:00 pm on Wednesday as well.  Between Johannes, Paul Asadoorian (Pauldotcom Security Weekly), and I (plus some other special guests?) we'll keep you entertained.  Please come by and support us!  If you can't make it in person, please listen live.  I don't know what URL we'll be using yet.  So keep your eyes posted here.

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Tuesday, July 8

Podcast Episode 8 Record Notice

Hey everyone, we're going to have a live Podcast record tomorrow at 6 pm EDT.  (That's Eastern Daylight Savings Time)

We'll be streaming it live via Stickam, and as always we welcome your feedback.  The link we'll be stream from is: http://www.stickam.com/joelesler

Please feel free to join us, we look forward to hearing your live feedback either in the Stickam Chat room, or in #dshield on irc.freenode.net.

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