tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10259481.post8798763110591942257..comments2023-10-30T09:25:19.881-05:00Comments on Joel Esler: CNN.com - England expected to plead guilty to Abu Ghraib charges - May
2, 2005Joel Eslerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05018134738510159518noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10259481.post-59952589815741696922005-05-02T16:19:00.000-05:002005-05-02T16:19:00.000-05:00I have no more information on this than you do exc...I have no more information on this than you do except to say some of the National Guard Units I've been associated with have had some real characters in them. The VAST majority of Guard folks I've met have been fine people but the Guard has a way of drawing the less desirables and if they make it through Basic it takes something pretty dire to even draw an Article 15.<br><br>I can certainly see an E4 being the ring leader of the stunts. I can also see a General turning a blind eye because she just didn't want to deal with it. That display of lack of discipline doesn't just happen overnight(no pun intended)...it takes track record and no "higher" putting the thumb on people.pilgrimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10259481.post-62779488293833946922005-05-02T16:49:00.000-05:002005-05-02T16:49:00.000-05:00Perhaps the General didn't know. I'll giv...Perhaps the General didn't know. I'll give her that.. but there's no way you can tell me no middle - senior NCO's didn't know. Low grade officers.. Someone knew, and didn't say anything, and they are just as much at fault as everyone else.Joel Eslernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10259481.post-8798358981681118892005-05-02T21:19:00.000-05:002005-05-02T21:19:00.000-05:00I have no more information on this than you do exc...I have no more information on this than you do except to say some of the National Guard Units I've been associated with have had some real characters in them. The VAST majority of Guard folks I've met have been fine people but the Guard has a way of drawing the less desirables and if they make it through Basic it takes something pretty dire to even draw an Article 15.I can certainly see an E4 being the ring leader of the stunts. I can also see a General turning a blind eye because she just didn't want to deal with it. That display of lack of discipline doesn't just happen overnight(no pun intended)...it takes track record and no "higher" putting the thumb on people.pilgrimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10259481.post-158077867274974282005-05-02T21:49:00.000-05:002005-05-02T21:49:00.000-05:00Perhaps the General didn't know. I'll giv...Perhaps the General didn't know. I'll give her that.. but there's no way you can tell me no middle - senior NCO's didn't know. Low grade officers.. Someone knew, and didn't say anything, and they are just as much at fault as everyone else.Joel Eslernoreply@blogger.com