Thursday, August 21

Surprise! Microsoft copies Apple, again.

According to this article over on BBC News, IE8 will include a "Privacy feature" while browsing.  Something that has been in Apple's Safari browser for at least a couple of versions now.  I mean, it's obvious they were going to copy it, as it's a great feature...  but just wanted to point out the obvious right quick.



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17 comments:

Chaulis said...

Cakes all share the same ingredients to make them good. Eggs, Milk, etc. Browsers also share many many similarities and it's nothing to get all huffy about. Truth be told Apple ripped off MS, MS rips off Apple and they both rip off Linux and Unix I mean really Apple uses System 5 AT&T so lets get real here. I think it's cool that MS is making strides in security. Let us thank them for their efforts instead of getting school yard on them and calling them copy cats.

Joel Esler said...

System 5? Um okay.

I'll just call them copy cats, it's much easier for me to state the obvious truth than to psycho analyze it. Plus if you read my post, you'll see that I said that it's obvious they were going to copy it. Duh, who wouldn't? Hell Mozilla is copying it as well.

Chaulis said...

Open a terminal session on OSX and issue a few commands, you'll notice that you put options in with a '-' sans tics. That is one of the obvious differences between BSD (Berkly Software Distribution) and System 5 as created by AT&T. System 5 is the framework that Apple OS's operate off. A GUI is nothing more than a bunch of scripts that run when you click an icon. For someone who researches security for OSX I'm rather surprised you didn't know this.

As for your post, I did read it hence my response to it.

Chaulis said...

Cakes all share the same ingredients to make them good. Eggs, Milk, etc. Browsers also share many many similarities and it's nothing to get all huffy about. Truth be told Apple ripped off MS, MS rips off Apple and they both rip off Linux and Unix I mean really Apple uses System 5 AT&T so lets get real here. I think it's cool that MS is making strides in security. Let us thank them for their efforts instead of getting school yard on them and calling them copy cats.

Chaulis said...

Cakes all share the same ingredients to make them good. Eggs, Milk, etc. Browsers also share many many similarities and it's nothing to get all huffy about. Truth be told Apple ripped off MS, MS rips off Apple and they both rip off Linux and Unix I mean really Apple uses System 5 AT&T so lets get real here. I think it's cool that MS is making strides in security. Let us thank them for their efforts instead of getting school yard on them and calling them copy cats.

Joel Esler said...

System 5? Um okay.I'll just call them copy cats, it's much easier for me to state the obvious truth than to psycho analyze it. Plus if you read my post, you'll see that I said that it's obvious they were going to copy it. Duh, who wouldn't? Hell Mozilla is copying it as well.

Joel Esler said...

System 5? Um okay.I'll just call them copy cats, it's much easier for me to state the obvious truth than to psycho analyze it. Plus if you read my post, you'll see that I said that it's obvious they were going to copy it. Duh, who wouldn't? Hell Mozilla is copying it as well.

Chaulis said...

Open a terminal session on OSX and issue a few commands, you'll notice that you put options in with a '-' sans tics. That is one of the obvious differences between BSD (Berkly Software Distribution) and System 5 as created by AT&T. System 5 is the framework that Apple OS's operate off. A GUI is nothing more than a bunch of scripts that run when you click an icon. For someone who researches security for OSX I'm rather surprised you didn't know this. As for your post, I did read it hence my response to it.

Chaulis said...

Open a terminal session on OSX and issue a few commands, you'll notice that you put options in with a '-' sans tics. That is one of the obvious differences between BSD (Berkly Software Distribution) and System 5 as created by AT&T. System 5 is the framework that Apple OS's operate off. A GUI is nothing more than a bunch of scripts that run when you click an icon. For someone who researches security for OSX I'm rather surprised you didn't know this. As for your post, I did read it hence my response to it.

Joel Esler said...

You mean "Unix System V" (SysV) as opposed to "System Software 5" (which was developed by Apple). SysV /was/ developed by AT&T, however, the only time Apple has ever used SysV is when they created Apple A/UX, which ran from 1988-1995.When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, A/UX was killed and the next os (OS X) was based on an OS that he brought with him named NeXTSTEP. The kernel for OSX is based on Mach. Developed by Carnegie Mellon. In fact, technically OSX's kernel is a hybrid kernel. Mach + 4.3BSD Kernels combined into what NeXT designed and named "XNU". The 4.3BSD Kernel code came from FreeBSD, and has since been heavily modified.OSX's operating system is technically called "Darwin". Directly derived from NeXTSTEP. (Which later became known as OPENSTEP.) After the OS came to Apple in 97, It was called Rhapsody. Rhapsody was forked into Darwin. OSX is based on Darwin.

Joel Esler said...

You mean "Unix System V" (SysV) as opposed to "System Software 5" (which was developed by Apple). SysV /was/ developed by AT&T, however, the only time Apple has ever used SysV is when they created Apple A/UX, which ran from 1988-1995.When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, A/UX was killed and the next os (OS X) was based on an OS that he brought with him named NeXTSTEP. The kernel for OSX is based on Mach. Developed by Carnegie Mellon. In fact, technically OSX's kernel is a hybrid kernel. Mach + 4.3BSD Kernels combined into what NeXT designed and named "XNU". The 4.3BSD Kernel code came from FreeBSD, and has since been heavily modified.OSX's operating system is technically called "Darwin". Directly derived from NeXTSTEP. (Which later became known as OPENSTEP.) After the OS came to Apple in 97, It was called Rhapsody. Rhapsody was forked into Darwin. OSX is based on Darwin.

MikeP said...

Funny, my OS X installation will take -arguments or arguments for most utilities, both quite happily. (As will FreeBSD systems.)

If GUIs are just covers for bunches of scripts, where can I find these scripts? I'd like to fix a few bugs.

If you're going to go all old school, why not say everybody ripped off Xerox PARC research?

Joel Esler said...

Actually so will most Linux systems.

But there is the truth of it. Everyone ripped off Xerox. (At least for the GUI portion)

But last I checked, it wasn't a bunch of scripts. I *believe* it's compiled ;)

MikeP said...

Funny, my OS X installation will take -arguments or arguments for most utilities, both quite happily. (As will FreeBSD systems.)If GUIs are just covers for bunches of scripts, where can I find these scripts? I'd like to fix a few bugs.If you're going to go all old school, why not say everybody ripped off Xerox PARC research?

MikeP said...

Funny, my OS X installation will take -arguments or arguments for most utilities, both quite happily. (As will FreeBSD systems.)If GUIs are just covers for bunches of scripts, where can I find these scripts? I'd like to fix a few bugs.If you're going to go all old school, why not say everybody ripped off Xerox PARC research?

Joel Esler said...

Actually so will most Linux systems. But there is the truth of it. Everyone ripped off Xerox. (At least for the GUI portion)But last I checked, it wasn't a bunch of scripts. I *believe* it's compiled ;)

Joel Esler said...

Actually so will most Linux systems. But there is the truth of it. Everyone ripped off Xerox. (At least for the GUI portion)But last I checked, it wasn't a bunch of scripts. I *believe* it's compiled ;)